Legislature(2003 - 2004)

02/19/2004 09:06 AM House STA

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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
             HOUSE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                       February 19, 2004                                                                                        
                           9:06 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bruce Weyhrauch, Chair                                                                                           
Representative Jim Holm, Vice Chair                                                                                             
Representative John Coghill                                                                                                     
Representative Bob Lynn                                                                                                         
Representative Paul Seaton                                                                                                      
Representative Max Gruenberg                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ethan Berkowitz                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW - WASTEWATER IMPACTS TO THE SMALL CRUISE SHIP INDUSTRY                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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CHAIR  BRUCE WEYHRAUCH  convened the  meeting of  the House  State                                                            
Affairs Standing Committee at 9:06 a.m.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY OF INFORMATION                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DAN   EASTON,  Director,   Division   of   Water,  Department   of                                                              
Environmental  Conservation,  introduced   the  recently  released                                                              
report entitled  "Assessment of  Cruise Ship and  Ferry Wastewater                                                              
Impacts  in  Alaska"  published  January  26, 2004.    The  report                                                              
reflects  3  years  of findings  with  regard  to  the  wastewater                                                              
discharged by small cruise and ferry vessels.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DENISE  KOCH,   Environmental  Specialist,  Commercial   Passenger                                                              
Vessel Program,  Department of  Environmental Conservation,  spoke                                                              
to the points  of the report relating to small  passenger vessels.                                                              
Three  years  of sample  data  has  been collected  regarding  the                                                              
smaller  vessels.  The  report  speaks  to three  types  of  water                                                              
discharged:   gray  water   (from   showers/sinks),  black   water                                                              
(originates from the  toilet), and a combination of  both gray and                                                              
black  water.  Some  problems were  discovered  that needed  to be                                                              
addressed  with regard  to meeting  the  fecal coliform  standard.                                                              
Ms. Koch  concluded  her remarks  by stating  it was decided  that                                                              
small  ships should  remain in  the  program due  to the  problems                                                              
during stationary dilution/discharge.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
There  were   no  questions  from   the  committee  for   the  DEC                                                              
representatives.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
BRICE BROCKWAY,  Cruise West, testified  to his company's  concern                                                            
with Alaska's  requirements.  Equipment that  would allow  them to                                                              
meet DEC  standards is too  large to fit  into their  seven cruise                                                              
vessels.   The  technology is  available,  on a  large scale,  for                                                              
vessels  to comply  with  Alaska  standards, which  are  different                                                              
[more stringent],  than other states  and even federal  standards.                                                              
Their cruise  vessels would have  to be widened and  lengthened to                                                              
accommodate the oversized equipment.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN  MICHAEL   JONES,  Lindblad  Explorations,   informed  the                                                              
committee that  vessels SEA LION  and SEA BIRD operate  in Alaskan                                                              
waters.  They are  U.S. Operated, U.S. Vessels, with  a U.S. Crew.                                                              
Captain Jones explained  his vessels tankage does  not accommodate                                                              
the new  technology.  Larger  vessels have different  capabilities                                                              
than   the   smaller  ships.   In   response   to   Representative                                                              
Weyhrauch's  comment regarding  dumping wastewater  in the  "Donut                                                              
Holes", Captain Jones  explained that those areas do  not apply to                                                              
his ships.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
REPRESENTATIVE  KERTTULA spoke  to the  subject and  congratulated                                                              
DEC on  the report.  She stated  Alaska is  a worldwide  leader in                                                              
the  wastewater  treatment  program   for  both  large  and  small                                                              
vessels.   The small ship  companies have been working  diligently                                                              
with   DEC   to  address   any   problems   regarding   wastewater                                                              
discharges.  The owners are using "best management practices."                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR  WEYHRAUCH  stated  there  will  be  more  scrutiny  by  the                                                              
legislature due  to the concerns  brought forward by  Mr. Brockway                                                              
and Captain Jones.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN MICHAEL  JONES spoke  to the  positive approach  Alaska is                                                              
taking  and  the  good  working  relationship  between  the  small                                                              
cruise   ship   lines   and  the   Department   of   Environmental                                                              
Conservation.  Captain  Jones stated that he and  Mr. Brockway are                                                              
representing  a  group  called  the  Alaska  Small  Cruise  Vessel                                                              
Association of which they are members.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  questioned Cruise  West with regard  to its                                                              
292-foot vessel and  whether it is constrained in the  same way as                                                              
the smaller vessels.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. BROCKWAY  explained the  larger vessel  has better  tankage so                                                              
it's able  to hold  longer, although the  [larger] ship  still has                                                              
the same types of problems as the smaller vessels.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ANNOUNCEMENTS                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
There were no announcements.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The committee took no action.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting adjourned at 9:30 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
NOTE:   The meeting  was recorded and  handwritten log  notes were                                                              
taken.   A copy of the  tape(s) and log  notes may be  obtained by                                                              
contacting  the House  Records Office  at State  Capitol, Room  3,                                                              
Juneau,  Alaska  99801  (mailing  address),  (907)  465-2214,  and                                                              
after  adjournment  of  the second  session  of  the  Twenty-Third                                                              
Alaska  State Legislature  this  information  may  be obtained  by                                                              
contacting the Legislative Reference Library at (907) 465-3808.                                                                 

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